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Anyone have experience with shingles that hold up against hail?
Yeah, I totally get what you mean about the underlayment - didn’t think it’d matter much until I actually heard the difference during a storm. As for impact shingles, I was on the fence at first because of the price, but after last spring’s hail trashed half my neighbor’s roof and mine came out fine, I’m convinced they’re worth it. The peace of mind alone is huge, especially when you’re tired of dealing with insurance claims every other year. Only thing is, don’t expect miracles with attic temps - like you said, it’s just a small improvement, but every little bit helps when it’s roasting outside.
The peace of mind alone is huge, especially when you’re tired of dealing with insurance claims every other year.
That’s honestly the main reason I bit the bullet on impact shingles too. The upfront cost stings, but not having to patch things up after every hailstorm is a relief. I do wish they did more for attic heat, but yeah - small gains are still gains.
I do wish they did more for attic heat, but yeah - small gains are still gains.
Honestly, that’s where I think impact shingles get a bit overhyped. They’re solid for hail, sure, but if you’re worried about attic heat, you might want to look at better ventilation or even lighter-colored shingles. I’ve seen folks swap to impact-rated thinking it’ll help with summer temps, but unless you address airflow and insulation, it’s not a game changer. Just my two cents from crawling around a lot of attics...
I’ve actually seen this play out a few times - neighbors swapped to impact-rated shingles after a nasty hailstorm, but their attics still felt like ovens in July. The shingles held up great against hail, but the heat issue didn’t budge until they added ridge vents and swapped to a lighter color. From what I’ve seen, shingle type helps with hail, but attic temps are way more about ventilation and insulation. It’s easy to get caught up in the marketing, but the basics still matter most.
- Seen a lot of folks get sold on the “hail resistant” label, but I always wonder - are those shingles actually tested in real-world hail, or just in a lab with ice balls?
- Completely agree, attic heat’s a whole other beast. Around here (Midwest), I’ve inspected homes with brand new impact shingles and they still had 130°F up there in July. Usually poor soffit/ridge venting or not enough insulation.
- Lighter colors can help, but honestly, I’ve seen some dark roofs run cool if the airflow’s right.
- Curious if anyone’s noticed a difference in noise with the impact-rated stuff during storms? Some clients say it’s quieter, some say no change.
- Anyone ever have issues with insurance not giving a discount after upgrading? One homeowner told me their rate barely budged even after switching.
- Last thing - has anyone tried those newer synthetic underlayments under impact shingles? Wondering if that adds anything for hail or just marketing hype...
I’ve wondered about the “hail resistant” label too. From what I’ve seen, most of the Class 4 impact shingles are tested with steel balls or ice balls in a lab, not actual hailstones. It’s better than nothing, but real hail can be weird - sometimes it’s soft, sometimes it’s like rocks. I’ve seen roofs pass the lab test and still get dinged up in a bad storm.
Attic heat is a huge deal. Even with impact shingles, if the venting’s off, you’re still cooking the roof from underneath. I’ve crawled through attics where the insulation was patchy and the ridge vents were basically useless. Doesn’t matter what shingle you use if the attic’s an oven.
On noise, I haven’t noticed much difference with impact-rated shingles. Maybe a little less “ping” during hail, but it’s not dramatic. Metal roofs are way louder in my experience.
Insurance discounts seem hit or miss. Some companies give a break for Class 4, others barely care. I guess it depends on your area and the insurer.
As for synthetic underlayments, I’ve used them under impact shingles a couple times. They’re easier to work with than felt and seem tougher, but I doubt they do much for hail protection. Feels more like a durability thing than actual impact resistance.
Doesn’t matter what shingle you use if the attic’s an oven.
That’s something I’ve wondered about too - how much does attic ventilation actually impact shingle lifespan, especially with these “impact resistant” types? I get that heat cooks them from underneath, but is there any data on whether Class 4 shingles hold up better or worse in poorly vented attics compared to regular ones? I’ve seen a few installs where the shingles looked rough after just a few years, but it’s hard to tell if that’s hail, heat, or both.
Also, has anyone noticed if certain brands of synthetic underlayment actually help with leaks after hail? I’ve only used GAF Deck-Armor so far and it seemed solid, but I haven’t had a big storm hit since.
Attic ventilation makes a bigger difference than most folks realize, especially in hot climates. I’ve seen Class 4s get brittle and curl just as fast as regular shingles when the attic’s basically a sauna. Impact resistance is great for hail, but it doesn’t mean much if the heat’s baking them from below. As for underlayment, I’ve used both Deck-Armor and Titanium - honestly, they both held up fine after a couple hailstorms, but nothing’s perfect if the hail’s big enough to punch through. At that point, you’re just hoping your insurance is decent...
Impact resistance is great for hail, but it doesn’t mean much if the heat’s baking them from below.
I get where you’re coming from, but honestly, I went with Class 4s mainly for the insurance discount. My attic isn’t perfectly vented (old house), but the shingles are still holding up after a couple rough summers. Maybe luck, maybe just not as hot here in Kansas. I’d say impact rating still matters if you’re on a budget and can’t do a full ventilation overhaul right away.
I went with Class 4s mainly for the insurance discount. My attic isn’t perfectly vented (old house), but the shingles are still holding up after a couple rough summers.
This is basically my situation too - first place, older home, insulation and ventilation definitely not up to modern standards. I spent way too long agonizing over what mattered more: impact rating or heat resistance. In the end, I picked the Class 4 asphalt shingles because hail is just a reality here (Colorado). I figured if they lasted through even one of our spring storms, I'd be ahead, especially with that insurance break.
Here’s what actually happened:
- First summer after install, we got hit with a hailstorm that trashed a bunch of roofs on my block. Mine? Not even a dent. The neighbors with older 3-tabs all had insurance guys out within days.
- The attic gets pretty warm (maybe not Texas-level hot, but it’s not cool either). I was worried about curling or early wear from underneath, but two years in and they look almost new. No granule loss yet.
- The installer told me to watch for signs like sagging or weird smells in the attic - basically if things were getting too cooked from below - but so far, nothing like that.
I do think luck plays into it some. Maybe we just haven’t had an extra-hot year yet. But honestly, “impact rating still matters if you’re on a budget and can’t do a full ventilation overhaul right away.” That really nails it for me. Upgrading attic venting was way out of my price range after buying the place and paying for the roof itself.
One thing I wish I’d known: check your soffit vents aren’t blocked by old insulation. Found out mine were covered up years ago...cleared them up and noticed it’s slightly cooler in the upstairs rooms now.
If you’re dealing with an old house and have to pick one thing to improve first - shingles with good impact resistance seem like a safe bet where hail is common. Ventilation can come later when you’ve got time (and money) to mess with it. That’s been my approach anyway, and so far it hasn’t bit me yet.
That’s pretty much how it went for me, too. I put off redoing the attic venting because, honestly, after the roof bill I was tapped out. Went with Class 4s for the same reason - hail is just a fact of life here (I’m in Nebraska). Two years later, they’re still looking good even though my attic gets toasty in July. Clearing those soffit vents made a bigger difference than I expected, but if you have to pick one upgrade at a time, impact resistance is hard to beat around here.
- Had a similar situation here in Colorado - hail’s just part of the deal.
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I’d agree, but I actually noticed my attic stayed cooler after I finally tackled the venting. Not a huge drop, but enough to help the AC.“if you have to pick one upgrade at a time, impact resistance is hard to beat around here.”
- My Class 4s (CertainTeed) are holding up after three hail seasons. No cracks or granule loss yet.
- Insurance gave me a small discount for the upgrade, which helped offset the cost a bit.
- If you’re on a budget, I’d still prioritize the shingles first - venting can wait a year or two if you have to.
I get why folks lean toward shingles first, but I actually had the opposite experience - my attic venting was so bad that my old shingles were baking from underneath, which made them brittle and more likely to crack when hail hit. After I improved the airflow, the next set of shingles lasted way longer. Anyone else notice that? I guess it depends how rough your attic gets in summer, but sometimes venting can save you money on both cooling and shingle replacement. Just my two cents...
- Gotta say, venting is important, but honestly, I’ve seen plenty of hail damage where attic airflow didn’t matter much.
- In my area (Colorado), hail just shreds regular shingles no matter how well the attic breathes.
- Upgraded to a class 4 impact-resistant shingle last time - cost more up front, but after two hailstorms, zero granule loss and no cracks.
- My neighbor kept his old venting and swapped to metal - never looked back.
- Sure, poor ventilation can bake shingles, but if you’re in a hail-prone spot, material choice seems to matter more than what’s going on underneath.
- Not saying don’t fix your venting (helps with cooling bills for sure), but for actual hail, I’d pick a tougher shingle or even look at metal or tile before worrying about airflow.
- Just my take from years of replacing busted roofs after every storm...
I hear you on the hail just wrecking regular shingles, no matter how perfect your attic venting is. I’m in Nebraska, and after the last big storm, I was picking up shingle bits from my yard for weeks. I’ve always tried to keep up with venting and insulation (helps with the summer AC bills), but honestly, it didn’t make a lick of difference when golf ball-sized hail came through.
I looked into class 4 impact-resistant shingles too, but the price tag made me wince. Ended up going with a mid-range architectural shingle and crossing my fingers. Insurance covered most of it, but I still had to shell out a chunk. My neighbor did metal, and yeah, it’s holding up great, but he says it’s noisy when it rains and cost him almost double what I paid.
If I had to do it again, I’d probably save up for the tougher shingles or maybe even metal, just for the peace of mind. Venting’s good for the long haul, but when it comes to hail, seems like you need armor, not just airflow.
I get why metal seems like the obvious answer, but I’m honestly not convinced it’s worth the extra cost for everyone. I’ve heard the noise thing too, and my cousin actually had some minor dents after a really bad hailstorm - so it’s not totally invincible. I went with a class 3 shingle, which was a bit cheaper than class 4, and so far it’s held up okay. Insurance did hike my premium a bit after the last claim, though, so that’s something I wish I’d factored in. Sometimes it feels like no matter what you pick, you’re just rolling the dice with Nebraska weather.
Metal gets a lot of hype, but honestly, I’m not convinced it’s the silver bullet for hail. My neighbor switched to standing seam metal after a bad storm, and yeah, it survived the next couple years, but there were still some dings after a softball-sized hail event. Plus, he swears the noise is worse than his old shingles - said he had to get used to it during heavy rain.
I went with impact-resistant asphalt shingles (class 4) on my last re-roof, mostly because I wanted something that could handle our wild swings in temperature. The initial cost was higher than standard shingles, but nothing like what metal would’ve run me. After two storms, I did find a few granule losses but no leaks or major issues. Insurance didn’t drop my premium like I hoped though... turns out they don’t always reward you for “upgrades,” which feels a bit unfair.
Honestly, Nebraska weather just laughs at warranties. Sometimes I think the best you can do is pick something sturdy, keep your expectations realistic, and budget for the occasional repair.
Honestly, Nebraska weather just laughs at warranties. Sometimes I think the best you can do is pick something sturdy, keep your expectations realistic, and budget for the occasional repair.
That line made me laugh - couldn’t agree more. I’ve seen so many roofs in this area that looked bulletproof on paper, but then a freak hailstorm rolls through and suddenly everyone’s calling about dents or missing granules. Metal definitely holds up better than standard shingles, but like you said, it’s not invincible. I’ve seen standing seam panels with some pretty gnarly dings after big hail, and yeah, the noise is a real thing. Some folks love it, others can’t stand it.
Class 4 impact shingles are probably the most balanced option for most people around here. They’re not cheap, but they don’t dent like metal and usually don’t crack like tile. The insurance thing is a pain though - some companies give a discount, others act like you didn’t do anything special. I always tell folks: no roof is “hail proof,” but some just make the repairs less of a headache when the time comes. Nebraska keeps us humble...
We ended up going with impact shingles a few years back after getting tired of patching up after every storm, but honestly, I’m not convinced the extra cost paid off. They’ve held up better than the basic asphalt ones we had before, but we still got a bunch of little dings after last spring’s hail. Insurance barely blinked at our upgrade - just like you said, some companies don’t really care. Has anyone had luck negotiating a better rate after switching? Or is it pretty much hit or miss depending on who you’re with?
I’ve dealt with a few insurance companies over the years, and honestly, it’s a mixed bag. Some actually gave a small discount for impact-rated shingles, but it barely covered the cost difference. What I’ve noticed is, unless you’re in a hail-prone area and your insurer specifically asks for those upgrades, they’re not going to throw you any bones. I always document the install and send photos, just in case, but half the time it feels like shouting into the void. If your agent’s willing to go to bat for you, you might squeeze out a better rate... but I wouldn’t bank on it.