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When sparks fly: imagining a wildfire-proof neighborhood

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phoenixclimber
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Insurance is a weird one... you’d think fire resistance would be a plus, but some companies just see “expensive to replace” and hike rates anyway.

That’s been my experience too—metal’s great for fire and wind, but insurers don’t always give credit for it. Have you noticed any difference in premiums depending on the specific metal type or profile? Some folks around here say standing seam gets treated differently than corrugated. Not sure if that’s just local or more widespread.


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Some folks around here say standing seam gets treated differently than corrugated. Not sure if that’s just local or more widespread.

Funny thing, I’ve actually seen the opposite in my area—insurers barely ask about the profile, just “metal” or “not metal.” When I replaced my old shingle roof with standing seam, I expected a break on premiums, but nope... same rate as my neighbor’s corrugated. Maybe it’s just our local agents not digging into the details? Wouldn’t surprise me if it varies by region or even by which adjuster you get.


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insurers barely ask about the profile, just “metal” or “not metal.”

That’s pretty much my experience too. I asked my agent if the style of metal roof mattered, thinking maybe standing seam would be considered safer during wildfires, but he just shrugged and said, “Metal’s metal.” I’ve heard from a neighbor in a different county that their insurance actually gave a small discount for standing seam, supposedly because there are fewer gaps where embers could get in. Makes me wonder if it’s just luck of the draw with agents, or if some places actually have written guidelines.

Has anyone actually seen language in their policy or underwriting docs that spells out the difference? Or is it all just word of mouth? I’d be curious if there are regions where they’re getting really specific about things like fastener type or ridge vent details. Seems like, in a wildfire zone, those little things could make a big difference... but maybe that’s just wishful thinking on my part.


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Has anyone actually seen language in their policy or underwriting docs that spells out the difference? Or is it all just word of mouth?

I’ve dug through a couple policies (California and Colorado) and honestly, I’ve never seen anything more specific than “metal roof” as a checkbox. It’s wild, considering how much difference there is between, say, corrugated panels with exposed fasteners and a tight standing seam system. In theory, standing seam should be way better at keeping embers out—fewer entry points, tighter overlaps—but insurers don’t seem to care. Maybe it’s just too much hassle for them to get into the weeds on every roof detail.

That said, I did hear from a local adjuster that some underwriters are starting to look at venting and soffit details in high-risk zones. Not sure if that’s widespread yet or just a few companies testing the waters. Honestly, it feels like the science is ahead of the insurance industry here... but I wouldn’t hold my breath for discounts based on ridge vent specs anytime soon.


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I get where you’re coming from, but I’m not totally convinced the insurance folks are as far behind as it seems. When we redid our roof after the 2017 fires, our agent actually asked for photos and a spec sheet—wanted to know if it was standing seam or screw-down, and even checked if we had fire-blocking at the eaves. Maybe that’s just a local thing (we’re in Sonoma County), but it made me think some companies are quietly tracking more details than they let on in the paperwork.

That said, I agree it’s frustrating how vague the actual policy language is. “Metal roof” could mean anything from a rusty barn to a high-end system. But I wonder if part of it is just practicality—imagine trying to standardize every possible roof detail across thousands of homes. Still, you’d think with all the wildfire losses lately, they’d start rewarding folks who go the extra mile with vents and flashing.

For what it’s worth, our premium did drop a bit after the new roof went on, but who knows if that was the metal or just luck with the underwriter that year...


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